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Monday, April 6th, 2009

The End of Christian America

A valuable article, for the most part, from Newsweek:


As someone who has to wrestle with the depths of theology and spirituality hour by hour, the trends do not surprise me. Christianity has been so poorly practiced in America for almost a century now, it should to some significant degree, DIE, so that a healthy form can take root and display its value.

One thing the author failed to note was that this is not the first time in American history that Christianity showed such lethargy. You can even see it in the colonies, a great indifference to the church and to Scripture.

If history is cyclical and the revivalist period occurred during the antebellum to rejuvinate Christianity after its colonial decline, what do you think is to come now?
Krystal   Monday, April 6, 2009
Hey Brian
I have not read the article yet, (I'll try to read it later) but my take on the 10% decline is not a decline in "true" Christians at all, but a realization from the great many who have simply grown up in a so-called "Christian Home" and hence have called themselves Christian only because they have been to church a few times and maybe even regularly, yet they have never really understood the Gospel. This classification of individual has been around for hundreds of years, yet in today's post modern culture they are being challenged as to what they believe and why, but they can not answer such questions. They are now realizing, and many are just being honest with themselves, that they do not really believe, and therefore when answering a poll, they are not relying on an assumption because of their upbringing. I think it can actually be a good thing from a Christians' point of view. At least people are really beginning to think about what they believe and why, which logically when explored to the deepest ends possible, can and often will result in coming to trust Christ as their needed Savior.
Good News   Monday, April 6, 2009
that would be an ecumenical matter
talkswithstrangers   Monday, April 6, 2009
Mike- I agree. The true church is unaffected. But most of the church was overrun with the "good people go to church" crowd, who refused the Gospel, and so it is only natural that they might finally be honest with themselves and depart. I think it can all be a great thing, in the end.

Krys- I believe there may be another massive wave of revival in the USA in the next 50 years. Then again, Europe is even more overdue. The issue is, in the USA and Europe, the prevailing belief is, "Christianity has been tried- and failed." It may take a generation or two for people experimenting with alternatives to become open again to thinking Christianity might have answers.
Brian   Monday, April 6, 2009
There can never be a Christian revival in America so long we elect presidents like Obama because he is anything but religious because he learned his basic religious theology from the Reverend Wright. The United States should be be starting a massive revival now because what North Korea did this weekend is nothing compared to what is looming if the Rug Picker in Iran ever decides to take on Israel because all of the rest little nations that have nukes are going to try to display them.

Because I have no trust and faith in the Obama-Clinton team, I can not believe that any thing good for the US will ever come out of it.
BeanCounter37   Monday, April 6, 2009
I think the author of this article makes too many hasty generalizations and made some inaccurate conclusions.

He claims that the christians have lost or are losing on the abortion and school prayer issues.

1. I did not know that abortion was a religious issue. It is more of a human rights issue. One can be an agnostic and if they believe that life begins at conception then the only conclusion that can be drawn is that it is murder. I can see where God may play a part in this overall discussion but to pigeon hole this as only a Christian issue is wrong. I know plenty of Jewish people who are pro-life.

2. Regarding prayer in school. I know plenty of people who practice their faith who dont think there should be state sponsored mandatory prayer in school. I dont think anyone wants a "taliban" type of religious experience in our public schools.

Then if you read the small print, the drop goes from 86% to 76% over the past 2 decades. Still a very large majority believes they are christians. So no need to make a story out of something that really isnt there.

And regarding Obama's role in this, people have to understand that based on the economic situation, a standing president of any party can and does lose to anybody in the other party. In other words, I could have ran as a democrat and history would have been on my side for winning.
RickMonday   Monday, April 6, 2009
Bean- name a President who was elected who brought revival. Thanks.

On the other hand, consider the explosion of the church under Roman pagan rule 2,000 years ago... and in China today.
Brian   Monday, April 6, 2009
Their was a great revival in this with in a month after 09/11/01, but it didn't last because the Americans became so complacent and not caring the same old prevailing attitude took place. Crashing planes in to buildings is one thing but destroying whole cities like Springfield, IL and Raleigh, NC are entirely different matters. Our elders said that FDR brought a revival but he was an early Socialist predecessor of "The Chi-Town Crap Shooter".
BeanCounter37   Tuesday, April 7, 2009
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