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Monday, November 3rd, 2008
Why not vote?
I know all of you probably vote, but I don't.
(yell, scream throw things at your computer.....I'll wait)

Let me explain WHY I don't. I live in FL. Why is that a good reason? Think back to when Bush was elected into office. Remember the chads? Remember the crazy old retirees that sat there holding ballots up to the lights so they could try to decipher who was being voted for? Remember how close it was? I honestly believe this is a red state, and will ALWAYS be a red state...no matter who the people in it actually vote for. I USED to vote, really I did. Once upon a time.

Tell you what, I'll go do it anyways. I just don't think it'll matter.
43 Comments
ben
1) I would think living in a state where votes come down to the wire would make you WANT to vote. Not the opposite. Your vote counts more than ever. But I believe voting is a personal choice....not only who you pick but if you decide to go out and vote. So there is no throwing things at my computer over here.
Biker Ben   Monday, November 3, 2008
nheinzel
2) No wonder Florida's a red state if all the blue's are staying home not voting thinking it won't matter!!!! Get out and vote!!!
!   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
3) The thing is, I don't think Bush would've won had our votes counted. Also, I have to argue with idiots every election who try to tell me that since I'm Republican, I can ONLY vote Republican. Most people really do believe that. They actually tell us that (or at least they did when I registered) when we register. So a lot of people here feel that if they haven't changed their party they are stuck.
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
Scott
4) Florida is looking more and more like it will go to the Dems this time around.

Either way, Ben's right. The 2000 election did NOT show us that a Democrat's vote doesn't matter, it showed us that everyone's vote DOES matter.
Scott   Monday, November 3, 2008
jnjnj05
5) With all of the filters here at work, I can't get the Leonardo DiCaprio PSA. It should hopefully tell you why to vote tomorrow. :) According to the PSA, only 537 votes were behind Ohio's electors in the last election.

If you google, "Leo DiCaprio PSA," you'll be able to find the link. Hope that changes your mind.
Jenn   Monday, November 3, 2008
Amber
6) interesting...I hear arguments like that from my dad on the argument that we live in CT and its def. going blue...I was shocked when I read the next line though and saw that you're from FL! if the 2000 was decided by 537 votes and in FLORIDA...I think it does matter!
Amber   Monday, November 3, 2008
billpearch
7) I don't think any reason is valid to not vote. When someone refuses to vote, it's basically the same as a vote for the candidate you like least.
Bill Pearch   Monday, November 3, 2008
George
8) I think if you don't vote then you have no right to complain about anything that the elected officials have any influence over. In short, no complaining.

Australia and Belgium require their citizens to vote.
LimeyGeorge   Monday, November 3, 2008
dazedpink
9) Probably no surprise to anyone here that I'm voting for McCain. And I live in IL...and there is no way McCain is going to win IL. But voting is still important to me. It's my right. It's a right that women fought very hard to gain, and I can't not vote and have that on my conscience. There are other races aside from the presidential one that my vote could impact...congress, whether or not to have a constitutional convention in IL. And really, if I don't vote, then I don't have any right to complain if things don't turn out the way I want them to : )
Jules   Monday, November 3, 2008
ppike
10) The more you abdicate your right to vote, the more likely you are to be ruled over. The mess of the past elections SHOULD remind us of that. We cannot stand by and let other people make our decisions for us. We have to hold them accountable for their actions. They are there to serve US. WE have a responsibility to make sure they know that -- so, get the hell out there and VOTE! PLEASE!
pegi   Monday, November 3, 2008
spike
11) Thank you Jules for the reminder of all the women that fought for our right to vote! And Yes Pegi!! They work for us! Don't let the politicians forget that.
Spike   Monday, November 3, 2008
hawkwolf
12) If you don't vote you will suffer the consequences because as it may turn out your preferred candidate could have performed the task better. If you don't the US to became the United States of Socialist America you should make sure that you vote John McCain. However, if you prefer the country to become a dictatorship, which never was the intent of the Founding Fathers, then vote for Obama and participate in a stolen election.
BeanCounter37   Monday, November 3, 2008
Russ
13) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vtHwWReGU0
Russ   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
14) I understand what you're all saying. BUT, what if the system really is not working? The whole party system is not very constitutional at all. There are 6 people running for presidential office, of which 2 are continually crammed down our throats. The other 4 you probably never hear about unless you look for info. That right there pretty much insures that the elected official will ether be Dem., or Repub.

As far as the whole, "women fought for the right to vote" aspect....so did men. It's in the past, so is slavery. I don't like those kinds of divisions among people, though I can see how they can be emotional points for some.
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
Russ
15) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX40RsSLwF4
Russ   Monday, November 3, 2008
Scott
16) And not voting would solve this how?
Scott   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
17) This country is NOTHING like the founding fathers envisioned, Bean. I really doubt that the next Pres. will have the powers that you seem to think they will.
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
Russ
18) The 2000 election came down to the votes of 537 people in Florida. That alone, should make you want to punch a chad.
Russ   Monday, November 3, 2008
spike
19) Russ...that is awesome...they pretty much covered all the reasons to vote. I wish all people still appreciated their right to vote.
Spike   Monday, November 3, 2008
carriepassante
20) A dictatorship? lol.

Great points, Jules.

I have had the pleasure of talking to many of our consumers at work today about getting out their voice... the voice they think nobody hears. It's very empowering...
Carrie   Monday, November 3, 2008
21) "As far as the whole, "women fought for the right to vote" aspect....so did men. It's in the past, so is slavery. I don't like those kinds of divisions among people, though I can see how they can be emotional points for some."

I am confused by this, why is this a division among people?
"so did men." Which men?
What does slavery have to do with this anyway?

Just because women in the past fought for our right to vote makes it important. Just because something is in the past does not mean we cannot learn from them.
confused   Monday, November 3, 2008
talkswithstrangers
22) sure, the electoral college ultimetly decide anyways :-p
talkswithstrangers   Monday, November 3, 2008
George
23) I'm voting for Chuck.
LimeyGeorge   Monday, November 3, 2008
k8day
24) I agree with LimeyGeorge about the no complaining. If you don't vote, whether or not you think it will count, then no complaining.
K8Day   Monday, November 3, 2008
Scott
25) Yes, Russ! Remember, if there's one thing hanging chads taught us, it's that the debacle in Florida happened not because people voted, but because they didn't vote hard enough!
Scott   Monday, November 3, 2008
justmeg
26) I gotta go with "confused" on this whole thing.

I am confused - about why anyone would NOT exercise their right to vote. As for the whole "it's in the past" thing. It is shown that if we do not learn from our past history - we are doomed to repeat it. I don't know about anyone else - but I don't want to live a whole bunch of out history.

Not only that Crystal - I have to point out one little thing to you - I am a supporter of women's rights - that is the right for a woman (not some fat balding man in Congress) to choose what kind of life she wants for herself, her children, her future children - if you fail to vote - you are giving up that choice - you are giving up your voice.
justmeg   Monday, November 3, 2008
courtneyheinzel
27) In your position, Crystal. but still being myself (whatever that means, LOL), I'd vote. I'd vote as an example for my kids.

As for the dictatorship comment, I believe McCain is the one who aspires to be a dictator, not Obama: "If I were dictator, which I always aspire to be..."
Courtney Heinzel   Monday, November 3, 2008
ppike
28) Crystal, if the system is really not working then we have to DO something to fix it. Voting (and educating yourself about the candidates) is the number one step. Politics is slimy, it's disappointing, seldom do candidates actually do what they say -- but it's the system we have. If it ain't working we have to take action to fix it, not just complain that it isn't working and walk away. The more we walk away, the more likely we will have no choice in the future - about any important decisions and policies.
pegi   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
29) I already said I'll vote tomorrow. I really felt jilted after 2000 though, and I am disgusted by the whole damn thing.

Meg, I support equality for everyone. I don't see "women's issues", or "men's issues", "minority issues".....just "people's issues". I can't really think of any issue that affects some, but not all of us.
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
30) confused, black men fought for voting rights. So have many men in many countries throughout history. This country came about because of taxation without representation, so it was men fighting for the right to vote. Slavery was an example of another historical triumph.

I'm not dismissing history, not in the least. But I'm not inclined to believe that my right to vote is any more special just because I'm in a group that had that right later, rather than earlier. We all have it now, so (in my mind at least) it isn't an issue.
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
carriepassante
31) Equality for everyone is definitely the dream. But other "groups" are not equal so there are issues... white men are really the only ones exempt from this as they made the rules in the first place. lol.

I also don';t think we vote (as women) b/c our vote is more special. It's more empowering, though, to know that when our voices were once mute, we can now be vocal and heard!
Carrie   Monday, November 3, 2008
RickMonday
32) I think the politicians pay more attention to the people when a larger percentage of them turn out at the polls. So regardless of who you are for in this election, please vote. If you dont like anyone on the ticket, use the write-in section.
RickMonday   Monday, November 3, 2008
mattpike
33) I've always voted. It feels more mandatory to me than a choice. It is ridiculously easy to do, and it sucks when it doesn't turn out the way you want it to, but there aren't many other ways for us to participate or send a message without being incarcerated....so I punch my chad and hope for the best. There are lines of lawyers this time around on both sides waiting for an opportunity to sue someone and recount votes, but I was most disappointed in Al Gore in 2000 for giving up so easily. Had he fought a little harder, or just a little, it may have exposed the weaknesses in our process, and focused more Americans on their one true natural born right. It is lame to not vote. Very lame. Sometimes it's all we have. No matter how depressing that may be.
mattpike   Monday, November 3, 2008
reera
34) I was thinking today that the silver lining in all the economic mess we have been dealing with is the citizens of the United States are no longer apathetic. Crystal, it saddens me that you could even think of blowing off the privilege and I think, responsibility we have as citizens and your reasoning is just so faulty I wont even bother to argue with you. You obviously threw this blog out there to get a response and I am very proud to be counted among these responsible citizens who have made the effort to convey their convictions to you.
dannie   Monday, November 3, 2008
Crystal
35) The only one who doesn't make me want to throw up is Barr. He hasn't got a chance in hell. Now I REALLY feel ill!
Crystal   Monday, November 3, 2008
36) At our federal election a couple of weeks ago, we had a voter turn out of just over 50%. Imagine if everyone else had shown up...

By the way, who is Chad and why are y'all punching him?? ;)
CanadaPam   Monday, November 3, 2008
mrsshoo
37) I'm with mattpike. I think it's people's obligation as a citizen of the U.S. to vote. It's like parents always tell you when you're little--you're given certain privileges (rights), but with those come responsibility, in this case voting.

Illinois is typically a blue state as Jules pointed out, but if all the reds just choose not to vote because of that, it'll never change.

I commend all who choose to take on that responsibility of citizenship and vote; I will be doing the same. Not only that, but I will be in charge of the mock election at our school so that my students' voices are heard.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Scott
38) Florida will always be a red state, eh?
Scott   Tuesday, November 4, 2008
mrsshoo
39) Clearly, Scott. It's so very red right now...But there's more blue!!!!

The country looks like a Smurf threw up on it. I love it!!!
Sarah S.   Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Crystal
40) In the end, I voted for Barr. I knew Obama would win, but it would be nice to see a different choice out there next time.

Historic time, eh? I am very happy with the outcome this time:-) Not so red! LOL!
Crystal   Tuesday, November 4, 2008
mrsshoo
41) Always be a red state, huh? :-) Glad you voted, Crystal!!
Sarah S.   Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Scott
42) You did not know Obama would win. That's what this whole blog was about. Why would you complain that Florida would never be a blue state and then, in a small way, contribute to that happening again?

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not against people voting for third party candidates, but all such people need to realize that such a decision could make the election swing in a different way than they want it to. That's one reason why Florida went red in '00 AND '04.

Edit: It should be said that I learned last night that one vote can make a difference. Obama lost by about 500 votes in Omaha, narrowly losing the district. Why does that matter? Nebraska can split its votes, and Omaha would have earned Obama one more electoral vote.
Scott   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
justmeg
43) I was very disappointed to see how many people voted for third party candidates. I was not happy with the two main choices but felt I needed to vote against the one I felt was worse.
justmeg   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
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