Thursday, May 14th, 2009
Employment
I am going to vent. I need to get this off my chest. I have found out that most people don't want to hear it, so I am going to write it down, and people can read it if you want to. Just to warn you, there may be some "poor me" and "life is so unfair" In here, so hold on.
I know that times are tough and many people are looking for jobs, but does that give employers the right to treat people badly? It seems like employers are saying, well "there is plenty of help out there, so we will just treat people anyway we want." Common courtesy has gone out the window. I saw on the morning news one morning a list of things that people need to do when looking for a job. I think we need a list of things that employers need to do when hiring people. If you put an application in for a job, and they say, we will call you when we make a decision, don't you expect a call? If you are not hiring or not interested in the person seeking employment shouldn't you say so. "We are not hiring at this time", "Don't call us we will call you." Instead of having someone anxiously sitting by the phone, excited about a job that never comes.
All this comes about over a recent job application. We called last Thursday and were told, "We will be looking at applications after Mother's Day. We will call you on Monday to set up an interview." We were very excited because this is the first positive thing that we have heard in 3 months. Well, Monday came around and we got no phone call. We waited until 5:00 PM and called them. The manager was out and we were told to call back on Tuesday. . No call on Tuesday, so we called again. She had not had a chance to look at the applications, but would call us on Wednesday at 4:00pm to set up the interview. We were so excited. We had a time and a day. Wednesday came and went with no phone call. At 5:00, we again called them. Still had not looked at the application, but would go and look at it and call us right back. Guess What!!!! No call. UGH!!!!!!
Do we continue to call everyday? If they are not hiring, why don't they just say so. We are "not interested in hiring you right now or quit calling, I am not hiring," instead of leaving us hanging like this. I am so annoyed. I would rather them tell me no and get it over with, than to continue this stress for a week.
Okay. I think that I feel better. No offense to anyone. Just needed to say this. Now, maybe I can get some work done.
6 Comments
soundchick
1) I call it Common Courtesy. And there isn't much of it around anymore. We have had a similar type of experience when booking the band. Bar owners around here do not seem to be the most business savvy. We'll drop off a promo pack and talk to them personally and a lot of them will still never call you back. No wonder so many of their businesses fail, if they treat vendors, employees, etc like that.
soundchick   Thursday, May 14, 2009
George
2) In many ways American society in general is more polite than in the UK, often to the point of going over the top. However, the one area where the opposite is true is in the area of job hunting. When looking for jobs in England, even if I was just sending out resumes speculatively, I would ALWAYS get a nice letter thanking me for my interest in their company. As soon as I started looking for jobs in this country I was amazed that almost nobody replies....sending out letters, resumes, applying for jobs seemed like I was just mailing stuff into a void. I'd hear nothing. Even if they were interested I would only find out by phoning. Sometimes I would get interviews and they would be really positive afterwards and would promise to get in touch but....nothing. Eventually it would be impossible to get these people back on the phone.
I feel for you. It's tough.
LimeyGeorge   Thursday, May 14, 2009
lgrant
3) I know what you mean, Randale. And I agree it is extremely rude. Even if the economy and jobs weren't in such bad shape--it's common courtesy to give prospective employees information about the job being filled, delays, something. Now, I think it is even more important. People are anxious about getting jobs and need a little consideration. My friend who was out of work for over 6 months had two jobs where the interviewing was very successful and she got a definite "we are interested--expect to hear from us". Both never contacted her and when she repeatedly called or emailed the interviewer, she was given vague answers like yours and left hanging. Finally one of them admitted the previous employee was returning to the job. Odd part about that was she had been told the previous employee passed away. Apparently she came back from the dead to come back to work! Bad enough on a first interview but to bring someone back several times and then give him/her no call, no correspondence, nothing and just drop the whole thing--it is the height of rudeness. You have a right to rant.

I also agree that current employers are feeling like they can treat their people with less respect these days. Sort of a "there are plenty of people out there who could do this job--don't rock the boat!". Our company used to pride itself on never laying off people and downsizing. Now, it seems to be a common thing and the company acts like the people who get laid off or let go deserve little consideration or respect. Luckily some of the managers who get stuck with the job of having to lay off good employees feel differently and at least make that person feel better about losing his or her job.
LGrant   Thursday, May 14, 2009
hawkwolf
4) The practices described by Randale have been in use for a long time by Personnel and Human Realations Departments for a long time, and don't expect any changes soon. If you want to know your status on a job that you are being considered for, then you call them weekly.
BeanCounter37   Thursday, May 14, 2009
spike
5) It is all very annoying Randale. I agree. I'm at the point where prospective jobs or projects stay in the 'potential' category until I am under contract. Otherwise, they aren't really options. I have about 6 irons in the fire but I don't really expect anything to come through. Expectations just leave you disappointed. You know? And when something does work out I feel surprised and grateful. So keep looking and chin up.
Spike   Thursday, May 14, 2009
hawkwolf
6) Before I retired and I was looking for positions, I called this type activity "Cattle Calling". If you sent the Employer or Head Hunter a resume, and a
Employer liked what they saw, then you went to visit them at their expense and had a discussion about the prospective job. Within a short time after your visit, you were usually notified with a written offer or a letter of rejection.
BeanCounter37   Thursday, May 14, 2009
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