1) I don't think we should apologize for everything. But Dresden was pretty horrific. girlcarew   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

2) So then should England also apologize for it? And should we apologize for Hiroshima or Nagasaki? I don't understand apologies for acts that were part of warfare strategy. Seems like anytime there is a problem, other countries want the US to come in and fix it for them but then when they have to bear the consequences of war - they want us to apologize and pay to fix damage.

In alot of ways, I believe that the US needs to tend to it's own, fix the problems we have in our own country and let the rest of the world do what it will. justmeg   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

3) and then apologise to the south for the civil war.

where would the line be drawn? JimTheLimey   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

4) Its daft to apologize for all these historical wrongs. Most of the people involved are dead by now anyway. Like Meg says, these things were part of a wartime strategy done to shorten the war and minimize casualties.
I also don't think the Japanese government needs to apologize to ex-POWs for the same reason. LimeyGeorge   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

5) Limey if you apply obama logic to every thing then he will over there for the presence of US cemeteries in the Normandy Region. I don't think the Us or Britain should apologise to any european people that were effected by 24 Hour per Day Bombing Campaign. Girlcarew read the history of Dresden it was means to destroy production facilities and help the morale of the German people. When you fight an enemy, you destroy their Industrial Base. BeanCounter37   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

6) curse that Obama for trying to improve diplomatic relations and show a little responsibility.

speaking of, sarah palin could see russia from her back yard, therefore she would have been much better at it than obama. JimTheLimey   Wednesday, June 3, 2009

7) When I first clicked on this I had the false hope that Bean was finally apologizing for some of his previous behavior on this site. How stupid of me! It is just another idiotic political rant that is trying to stimulate discussion that will give him a ton of comments on his page. I apologize..... to myself for wasting my time even looking at his site anymore. K8Day   Thursday, June 4, 2009

8) Good ridiance for the liberal leaning person. BeanCounter37   Thursday, June 4, 2009

9) and hello to poor spelling. JimTheLimey   Thursday, June 4, 2009

10) I'll assume you mean radiance. You're wishing them days full of sunshine, right? Snelly   Thursday, June 4, 2009

11) and I think he meant 'learning'... he is impressed that Kati is learning to be liberal.

he is so sweet. JimTheLimey   Thursday, June 4, 2009

12) He really is such a nice guy, Jim. And here we've been giving him a hard time. Snelly   Thursday, June 4, 2009

13) Could have been more of a hard time, if "pigs hadn't flown" overnight. HA! Talk about your bad spellers...WOWSA! Hmmm...I think we'll have pork chops for dinner tonight. :O) Angi   Thursday, June 4, 2009

14) dont mention "pork" on beans page.... JimTheLimey   Thursday, June 4, 2009

15) Limey, if my knowledge of history serves me well on two occaisions the United States has bailed your country out of trouble, those two occasions being World War I and World War!!. In all fairness, this Yank must say that the UK has been one of the US best allies, since the Revolutionary War ended. BeanCounter37   Friday, June 5, 2009

16) Bailed us out, you say?

I believe it took the U.S. 4 years to get involved in WW!! (as you put it) after the damage was already done, slow and steady wins the race I suppose. JimTheLimey   Friday, June 5, 2009

17) Jim, look at what we had in the White House, an isolationist Democrat, Franklin D. Roosevelt who happens to be the idol of Mr. Obama. No, Jim slow and stupid doesn't win the race, not did Roosevelt do anything until you Brits were pushed out of Asia at Singapore and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. When Churchill turned his Gonads at the Atlantic Conference and there were American bodies lieing on the floor did he and buddies do any thing. I, too am sorry, that the US didn't do anything when the Blitz started because you deserve not to have to suffer that way. However, while we are discussing this matter, I do not have the same compassion for the French for many different reasons. BeanCounter37   Friday, June 5, 2009

18) well. a good chunk of my family is french, not by ancestry, but they live and breathe french, my uncle and his kids for example.

and I didnt say slow and stupid. JimTheLimey   Friday, June 5, 2009

19) Limey, ask your family if your French side contributed to the Allied cause? I will praise the French Resistance and Underground because they risked their lives on every mission and they lived under control of the Germans. However, if it had been for the US and Britain on two occaisons they would be eating Sauerkraut and speaking German. BeanCounter37   Friday, June 5, 2009

20) Everyone talks about how the US saved the day in WWII, but honestly, if it wasn't for the Russians getting involved and marching into Berlin, the war would have lasted a hell of a lot longer then it did. RW   Friday, June 5, 2009

21) Expanding upon RW's comment, which I think is true, if Hitler had not opened up the 2nd front against Russia, it certainly could have had a different outcome.

Either the war would have lasted longer of the Axis would have won. Either way though, I think Britain would have been fine. Hitler like the English and had great pause in attacking them. In fact some say he may have taken it relatively easy on them. RickMonday   Saturday, June 6, 2009

22) The hesitancy of the United States was caused by poor leadership under FDR. The Congress had to be nudged by the attack at Pearl Harbor and Churchill finally getting Roosevelt to support England with the Lend Lease Act. I will agree that Russia's entry from the East did help because that action put Germany in the jaws of a vice. In 1944, the German Officer Corps and the troops were tired of war after The Eastern Front,North Africa, and having to prop up Mussolini. High ranking German Field Officers would tell the Americans that all is kaput. BeanCounter37   Saturday, June 6, 2009

23) I love the BeanCounter. My father served in the Army in WWII and all I know about his time there is that he was an infantry man, served on the ground in France and Germany, and he had a hand full of photos that I saw in his drawer. These photo's either showed brothers in harms in a row holding onto each other and smiling or bombed out roads, equipment, bodies and dead horses. He did what needed to be done, and thank God he made it home, and I was one of five children from his marriage to my Mom upon his arrival back in the US after the way.

He talked like the BeanCounter when he did talk about it (which was rarely). But the most memorable thing to me about my father and that war was the way that he frequently had nightmares in his sleep and would jump straight out of bed and land on the floor still fighting that war.

So don't let me get in the way of the baby boomers here who are discussing how the US did not get in soon enough or other BS. Because frankly everyone young or old knows that none of us really know a damn thing about it anyway.

Keep giving 'em hell bean counter, you wonderful, wonderful bad speller you!! K. Wheless   Monday, July 13, 2009

24) Thank you very much K. Wheless. BeanCounter37   Tuesday, July 14, 2009