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Tuesday, June 24th, 2008
To Pray Or Not To Pray, That Is The Question...

So my husband, Bill a/k/a Pastafarian (don't ask), started a conversation about his atheism last week, and I mentioned that I should probably do a blog about my "side of the story." Many of you have already read the very beginning, and Pegi said that I was a "very brave woman" and "generous to share such deep matters." To that I say, I must. In order to live with integrity, I feel the need to exchange information about my past with others. Now, this might not be the same for anyone else, but for me, it helps.

On May 14, 1988, I was raped. I was on a date with someone I'd known for a few years--we met in college in '85--and we'd been out a few times, after running into one another a couple weeks prior. Anyway, without disclosing the details, we ended up driving out to the country to stargaze and, you know, what I thought was innocent kissing and such. Not his plan. To make a long story short, I never reported it because I felt it was my fault for agreeing to go out there in the first place and for climbing into the back seat willingly. Besides, "Date Rape" wasn't really part of our vocabulary back then. Afterward, I spoke to someone I thought I could trust with everything: God. After weeks and weeks of praying and not getting any answers from God, I gave up trying.

Then, in September of that same year, I got a telephone call from my OB/GYN asking me to come in for a consultation: I had pre-cervical cancer. My parents were terrified, but needed to be strong for me because I was a mess! After my surgical procedure, I recovered, but felt that the cancer was my "answer" from God...my punishment, so to speak. From that point on, I decided that I was going to throw caution to the wind and live my life, not caring about whether it was a "sin" or not.

I quit school and got a second job. I went out with friends to clubs and bars and drank and danced to my heart's content. I traveled with my girlfriends to see cities and meet people and have fun. I dated, I went "stargazing" whenever and with whomever I pleased, and you know what? God didn't strike me down with a bolt of lightning! By the time a few years had passed, I felt my faith in God wain.

Then, on a cold day in March 1991, a customer came into the store where I worked and took my breath away; it was him. I was furious! Why was he here? I had hidden him deep within the far reaches of my memory, and now, all of a sudden, here he was--physically--standing in front of me. Well, he needed to tell me something that would turn my world upside down yet again: he had AIDS.

OH MY GOD!!! Would this nightmare ever end for me? Was I such a horrible sinner that God would punish me and those I love in this manner?? I mean, weren't there people who had done worse things than me in the world?! Over the few years that followed, I would lose my faith in God completely...

After he disclosed the AIDS information to me, I had to be tested on two occasions: right away and again in six months; both were negative. Once those initial tests were done, I decided to relocate and moved in with friends near San Francisco; I needed space and time to recoup away from my family--they could see through me at times, and I didn't want to burden them with this information. I stayed there for a year, and was tested for AIDS in California 10 times, just to be sure. Then, I moved home to Illinois, which was made easier because he died of AIDS-related pneumonia. I sighed a bit, then...at least the physical reminder of that night, May 14, 1988, was gone, and a new memory for that date had taken it's place - my nephew, Cody, was born on that date in 1992; the year I returned.

I decided to change my life, so I moved and took a job in Springfield, and at the urging of a mentor of sorts (Tom Easley), went back to school. I also tried to renew my faith by attending several Missouri Synod Lutheran churches in that fair city, but felt let down after every service. Nothing spoke to me; the creeds recited beliefs I no longer had. I tried other denominations: Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, and just plain ol' Christian churches. Nothing moved me there either. So, I decided to stay away from structured religion for awhile.

Then, I met Bill. He was a Deacon at his hometown Presbyterian church, but after many conversations he revealed that he only did this to spend time with his mother and that he was Atheist. We talked and talked about how he arrived at this conclusion, and after studying many different sciences and conversations about Atheism, I felt fear. Fear of nothingness. However, my new relationship with Bill seemed to smooth over my fear, and I pushed it aside.

A year or so after we were married, my father wasn't feeling well and after many tests, he was diagnosed with a terminal metastasis of colon cancer to the liver; they gave him six months to a year. The family was devastated. Now my father was not an "absolute faith" type, but he had attended church with my mother weekly since the early 80s. He did cling to the hope that there was a God and that he'd ascend to Heaven at the end of his fight, but still disclosed to me during one of our many, many talks during those final months that deep down inside of himself, he was still uncertain. After his last breath on June 2, 2002, I was petrified of death...

Upon building our home and finishing my degree, our first child (Galvin Montgomery) was born in June 2005, and instead of being over-the-top thrilled about this beautiful baby, I cried and cried every day. I lost confidence in myself. In life. I didn't think I could be The Momma. I had P.P.D. and two weeks after Galvin was born, I needed medication, which I hated. Then within months, I fell and broke my leg, dropping Galvin in the process, and it seemed to be a downward spiral from there. Even though the Zoloft seemed to help the P.P.D., I stopped taking it in early 2006. Then I got pregnant with Gwendolyn, and my fears escalated once more, but something was about to happen that would change me forever: Cali Jo was diagnosed with cancer in April 2007...

I can vividly remember that day - it was a Thursday. Bill, Galvin and I were eating dinner, waiting for the phone to ring because we knew it would since Cali had gone into surgery for the biopsy at 4:30pm. I remember taking the call from my sister's best friend, Carrie, and her words: cancer. I was calm, told my husband what she said, walked the hall to our bedroom where I closed the door, knelt down beside our bed and placed my face into a pillow to muffle the guttural screams and sobbing that ensued. Then, for some reason I can't explain, I prayed. And I continued to pray from that day forward, through the near-fatal accident that left my nephew with a traumatic brain injury, through the birth of our daughter, Susannah Gwendolyn, through another diagnosis of P.P.D. (go figure) and through everything that has happened since April 26, 2007, up until today. And it's said that "Out of tragedy comes...triumph; hope; life." I believe all are true, at least for me.

So, have I fully restored my faith in God? No. Do I consider myself a religious person? No, though I do consider myself a spiritual being. Do I believe in structured religion? Not at this time, but if it works for others, fine. It's kind of like "support groups" - loads of folks swear by them, but I've never found them helpful for me. I'd rather lean on the relationships I currently have and the new ones I make along my journey, like all of you! And I don't foresee myself giving up my Sunday paper between waking and waffles for a sermon anytime soon.
14 Comments
justmeg
1) Your story leaves me speechless. I am where you are - I believe in a God but am not sure about organized religion as a whole.
justmeg   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
betsyradish
2) I admire your courage through everything you've been through. Although you may not feel brave, you definitely are.
I have been taught throughout my life that for some people, it takes alot of hardship to come back to God. I think that might be the reason you found yourself praying for your niece.
Sometimes it just feels natural, when we feel like we can't handle it anymore on our own, we need help. There's nothing wrong with that. I think that's what God is here for.
Betsy   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
George
3) I'm a Christian and attend a church but I, too, am not terribly keen on organized religion. You get told what to believe and how to behave or not to behave and, at the same time, reminded of your need to have a personal relationship with Christ. To me these often conflict because the personal relationship part means I'm doing lots of my own thinking on what the Bible is telling me.
Not that what the church doctrine is or what the preacher preaches is wrong or bad information, just that we should treat it more as guidance while we make our own minds up considering what our conscience tells us.
LimeyGeorge   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
reera
4) Its often said that if we think we have all we can cope with just look around-there is always someone who has more challenges and be grateful for our own. I often have wished that I could have that blind faith I have witnessed in some people-God will not give you any more than you can handle. Have faith....all I can say is that I believe we can't do it by ourselves and that when I felt I could take no more, the only peace I could find was walking and talking with the Spirit greater than I or any human. I have been thinking about your husband's blog and have been expecting something from you. I am humled by your courage to share this story.I am a seeker as so many are, I recently began to read about Buddhism and found it interesting what my son-in-law had to say about that philosphy. I guess for me it all comes down to an acceptance that I don't know or understand the answers but I will continue to seek and pray and hope that I will keep an open mind and respect others right to have their own beliefs.
dannie   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
betsyradish
5) Limey George - I think you have a great perspective on your faith. Your comments on Angi and Pastafarian's blog are right on.

dannie - That's something I try to live my life by: God will not give me more than I can handle. It's difficult most of the time, but I am trying :)
Betsy   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
soundchick
6) You've been through more than your share, that's for sure! I'm the type of person that doesn't feel the need for organized religion. I don't attend church for multiple reasons, one of those being the ridiculous amount of money many churches want you to donate and the archaic principles some still cling to. I can worship God in my own way on my own time and I don't have to do it in a church. I try to worship God every day the best way I know how which is to lead a good life, be kind to my neighbor, and try to help people as much as I can. Going to a church on Sunday isn't going to change any of that for me.
soundchick   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
ppike
7) I feel the same way about churches/faith groups that I feel about doctors, therapists, schools, etc. - keep looking until you find what works for YOU. And, that may be nothing organized. We're all searching. Some look in rules and organized religion, some look outside the box. I think it can be found in many places. I know there is love - that is the force that gives me faith. I feel the love, even in the midst of the pain. Maybe not always during the pain, but the love always comes. That is all I can wish for anyone - to know the love. I don't know how else to survive in the world.

The love is the part of Jesus' teachings that always spoke to me. I love that when he was questioned about what was the most important commandment (oh how some love the rules!) he said (in my own words, or course) if you love god/the creator, your neighbor and yourself, all the rest follows. With love comes respect, honor, compassion, comfort, the ability to forge ahead. No answers, but the stuff of wholeness and happiness.

Like you have begun doing Angi, I do think we have to ask, to find the divine. I think asking opens our hearts, minds, ears and eyes. I think it is all around us all the time, the difference is in the asking, then the knowing, the seeing.
I believe we find the workings of faith where ever we can find them. Maybe it's gathering with believers (church/synagog/mosque...) a walk in the woods, prayer/meditation, time rolling around on the floor with our children... So long as our life is focused on the love I believe that is what we end up receiving. I don't mean I think it makes everything great and right. It makes everything worth fighting for, because the rewards are so precious.
pegi   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Leslie
8) Your story brought tears to my eyes. Your strength has really been tested and you have shown remarkable courage. Have you read Elizabeth Gilbert's book Eat Pray Love? There are many lessons to be learned from her personal journey in search of spirituality , contentment and love. I highly recommend it. Kudos to you for posting your story. I admire you greatly.
Leslie   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
girlcarew
9) I appreciate your openness in sharing your journey. As others have noted, everyone has their own way of seeing god/religion/spirituality. You may not be at the end of your journey, but you are in a place that works for you. And I think that is something a lot people don't have. I am glad you have that.
On a side note, I had PPD as well. Did the Zoloft. I can relate. It is an awful condition that can really mess with your head. I hope you have been able to move past it. That can be hard to do. (I feel the need to (((()))) -- call me a geek.)
girlcarew   Wednesday, June 25, 2008
mrsshoo
10) Angi, this is really random, but I'm reading a book that made me think of you. It's called "The Case for Faith." It seems like you have faith, but have questions and such, and that's what this book is about--answering those questions. As soon as I started reading it, I thought of you and this blog post. It has it's faults (as does any book where someone argues for or against religion), but overall it's an interesting read and does offer some insight (at least in my opinion).
Sarah S.   Sunday, July 6, 2008
George
11) I've read that book and a couple of others he wrote. Lee Strobel right? I like how he seeks out experts and asks them tough questions.
LimeyGeorge   Sunday, July 6, 2008
mrsshoo
12) Yup. I read The Case for Christ a while ago, but I'd never read this one. He's very down-to-earth and not afraid to ask the more difficult questions.
Sarah S.   Sunday, July 6, 2008
George
13) The last one I read was Case for a Creator. That's really good too.
LimeyGeorge   Sunday, July 6, 2008
BrianHamrick
14) Angi- Looks like I'm late to jump on this train, but let me chime in anyway with a few thoughts.

- I really appreciate you being so open and honest with your life story to a bunch of friends, but perhaps mostly, semi-strangers. I was touched by the tragedies you've faced in life. Your transparency about difficult, personal things is refreshing.
- Your instincts through all of this analysis is spot on- things are not as they should be. Interestingly enough, the Bible repeats the same message. The creation is fallen. Mankind is fallen. There are flaws everywhere. There is decay everywhere. So the questions are, is God there, and is God good? Those are key. I almost hear in your voice a hope that the answer to both of those questions is "yes," though you have a number of things that make it hard for you to believe it is so. I certainly can't explain with all knowledge the tragedies in your life. Yet I do find comfort in realizing the words of Jesus, "in this world you will have trouble" are evident before me everyday, to varying degrees.
- Let me, as a pastor, be really frank with you: many, maybe even most churches in America right now stink. They are overrun with selfishness, dull preaching, unBiblical preaching, and faking. Many of them are an abomination. The church is in sad shape, and it is visible in almost all denominations. still, if you would come to the point of being convinced of your need for redemption by God's grace, don't give up on the church. Find a good one. If I told you there was a 10 karat diamond in a haystack, you'd probably take the time to dig for it. there are some churches like that. There tend to be more of them in the sovereign grace movement, the PCA, or the Evangelical Free churches. You seem to find fault (rightfully) with how most churches do not engage people to talk about what they believe and learn from each other. There is good preaching out there centered on the good news the soul needs, but you do have to hunt for it. Living a good life isn't enough to reconcile us to God. We must experience grace to have real fellowship with Him. This is the greatest love of all.
-Going to church is not to be merely a support group, but a form of obedience to a God we believe tells us not to forsake gathering together for the purpose of encouraging each other. Perhaps the churches you've been in did a poor job of that and it left you feeling empty.
-I give God thanks that you experienced victory over cancer, that you did not contract AIDS, and that He has given you a family. For me at least, I see His kindness evident in your life in those ways.
-Strobel has good stuff, another good read is Ravi Zacharias, particularly his critique of atheism.
Brian   Wednesday, July 16, 2008
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