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Saturday, November 1st, 2008

One of the universal quandaries...

No, not another cookie election or Adventures in Busing. I think this puzzle is more universal than my small world of baking, busing or buying a Mac. This question goes to the core of our existence and life on this planet.

When you load the toilet paper holder, does the TP go over the top

or from underneath?

I had a friend who actually removed the TP from the holder and reversed it when she visited me. I noticed it the next time I rolled it and it was upside down. I thought "is there a right and wrong?" "Have I been putting the TP roll on the holder wrong my whole life?" I've puzzled that since.

Lately, I've noticed at work that the TP roll in the office restroom alternates from day to day. One day it will come over the top; the next, from the bottom. This lack of consistency is confusing. Obviously there isn't an industry standard in office restrooms. Or, we have an untrained maintenance person flagrantly ignoring the TP Roll Installation Manual and doing it wrong.

Having someone come to my house and modify my TP roll is unnerving. It makes me wonder what else I do that goes against the laws of civilization and house maintenance. Do I put the sheets on the bed correctly? Fold the towels in the prescribed fashion? Load the dishwasher per code? Store utensils in the drawer in the right order?

I'm curious if anyone has read instructions or been taught the correct process of loading a TP roll holder in school or by a responsible and learned adult. I'm thinking I missed that class or my mom was remiss in my training.

I've checked the package and see no loading instructions or disclaimer to absolve the TP manufacturer of all liabilities if it is installed incorrectly. I'm thinking if loading it wrong could cause injury--it would say so on the package. I know all my other products warn me of every imaginable injury due to misuse of the product.

Please let me know if you know the answer. Thanks.

Tags:  home, life, puzzle
I actually did a presentation on this topic for a marketing class I had in college. All the finer hotels bring the TP over the top and tuck the edges under to form a point. (I did my presentation with some humor and actually got an "A") In truth- who cares? Your friend has issues:>
dannie   Saturday, November 1, 2008
At least someone indicates I've been going in the right direction--even if I don't do the prerequisite V. Thanks!!
LGrant   Saturday, November 1, 2008
Who gets to say what is correct and what is wrong? Its a matter of preference. I prefer the over the top simply because it is closer for the hand to grab and there is more space behind the paper for manual manipulation.

The "V" is just plain retarded.
LimeyGeorge   Saturday, November 1, 2008
My husband and I actually tease each other about this. He says under I say over.... Of course we like to argue about mundane things. Peanut butter, crunchy or creamy. He says he's never heard of creamy peanuts. I say I've never heard of crunchy butter. He says I shouldn't put ice in my coffee.... "there's a reason it's brewed" I said, "so why do you put ice in your tea?"

Sorry, Linda, didn't mean to get started there.... TP should definately be over the top. :)
KTkat   Saturday, November 1, 2008
I like my TP loaded over the top, my mother prefers it from the bottom. I prefer my bath towels folded in half, then in half again, then in thirds; my mother prefers them folded in thirds--longways--then in half and in half again. My mother never allows glassware to be placed on the bottom rack of the dishwasher, and I could give a shit, as long as they're clean when they come out. I store my medicines in my bathroom; she insists they be above the stove hood in the kitchen. My bread is always found in the fridge; hers is fermenting in a bread box.

See a pattern here?? Yeah, I have issues, and it has nothing to do with whether or not my toilet paper is installed properly.
Angi   Saturday, November 1, 2008
So far it looks like the tops have it. I'm feeling less of a TP roll failure. :)

I love your arguments, KT. LOL
LGrant   Saturday, November 1, 2008
Whichever way it lands on the holder is how it goes. I don't really consider TP a decorative accessory, I guess.
BigDog   Saturday, November 1, 2008
Always over, for easy grasping.
shoo   Saturday, November 1, 2008
Always over here as well. My parents are under people...We've had a few arguments about it as all three of us are OCD about it. We finally came to a compromise. The guest bathroom off the kitchen has no TP holder anymore. We now use a stand alone paper towel holder for the TP roll.
RW   Saturday, November 1, 2008
Over. Although I wouldn't have changed yours, I would have noticed that it was wrong if it had been going under. =)
girlcarew   Sunday, November 2, 2008
Definitely over. Never under!! Your guest was very rude and way out of bounds to change yours. As you can see from the answers, I don't think there's a right or wrong way, just personal preference. Or, as Big Dog says, whichever way it lands on the holder!
!   Sunday, November 2, 2008
I think I'd have to say I had a preference before I was married. I gave up that fight a long time ago. The arguement that I used it more than him didn't hold any water. So here we are.

I do think your guest was rude by changing it. If she has a preference than surly you do too. So your guest needs two things, 1, a recap lesson in manners, 2, therapy for OCD.
Richie & Ashley   Sunday, November 2, 2008
I vote for over, but I do not change it in anyone else's house. In my own house I always get to choose because Dennis sits the roll up on the holder rod and let's it wait for me. Insecure in the TP area, I guess. LOL My issue is to always make sure the EXTRA ROLL is not in the closet but in the basket designated for extra TP!
gigi   Sunday, November 2, 2008
I've never given it serious thought. I am just thrilled if the person that uses the last of the roll replaces it. I will pay more attention and use the over the top method now that I know that is more socially acceptable.
Leslie   Sunday, November 2, 2008
Hi. My name is Crystal, and I'm a TP rearranger. My husband says he wants to put the roll holder on sideways. OBVIOUSLY to drive me nutts.
Crystal   Sunday, November 2, 2008
HAHA...Crystal. I'm sure most families probably agree with Leslie that it is a blessing to have someone else replace it besides the woman of the house. :)
LGrant   Sunday, November 2, 2008
With 3 boys and a husband I am lucky that the toilet paper gets on the roll at all, so I really don't care top or bottom just as long as it is on the roll...
Randale   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Definitely over and I also vote for rude friend. You should go to your friend's house and tell him/her how to bake!
soundchick   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Over the top is best IMHO. Put under it always seems to get stuck back behind rather than laying in the front of the roll.
And KTKat - I am a coffee fanatic, but I only drink it iced. :-)
Merrick   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
OK, I don't think i've ever changed someone else's TP roll to suit me, but I can't guarantee it!

In defense of your guest, maybe she was just a little OCD and sitting there, with nothing to do, just couldn't stand it any longer. Or maybe she accidentally pulled the roll off and replaced it without thinking about how it was hangin'.

Can you tell I'm feeling a little defensive here, imagining that I have done the same thing?!
pegi   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
LOL, Pegi. It wasn't like I felt offended--just a little confused that it was so wrong someone felt the need to change it. And going to work every day and finding it one way today and the next way tomorrow--I figured it was time to ask. :)

If you come to visit and feel the need to change it...I won't feel offended. :)
LGrant   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Whew. thanks.
pegi   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
I vote for over.

PS- Thanks for the delicious cookies Linda. We have been happily munching away on them.
niki   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
I think over has it.

I'm glad you are enjoying the cookies, Niki. I thought you'd all enjoy something for the special day.

Did you vote for DBCC or TCC? I know how Denny voted. :)
LGrant   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
I liked them both. It was a tie.
niki   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
Merrick agrees with you. She said she can't say more than both are in the 20 of her Top 5 desserts. :) Glad you liked them both.
LGrant   Wednesday, November 5, 2008
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