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Tuesday, June 24th, 2008
Jogger fights off would-be rapist
I don't know if any of you read this story in the SJR this morning. My dad called me this morning to ask if I ever went out on the Wabash Trail by myself. I told him that sometimes I took the dogs for walks or rode my bike by myself. Of course that piqued my curiosity, so I asked him why. He told me that a woman was attacked on the trail on Sunday morning. The man had a knife and attempted to rape the woman. She fought him off and called 911 using her cell phone. That frightened him off. (For more details, read the article.)
I run several times a week by myself (usually in my neighborhood). I also bike and walk on both the Interurban and Wabash Trails. Most of the time, I'm out on these trails in the mornings. Very rarely do I carry my cell phone with me, not because I think I couldn't possibly be attacked, but because it just doesn't occur to me that these things happen.
I grew up in a small town. We not only knew all our neighbors' names, but the names of nearly everyone in our town. People waved when they saw one another. The worst that ever happened when I was growing up was Christmas lights being cut. The small town culture raised me to be very trusting. This is no excuse to do silly things (running by myself without a cell phone). My father tried to instill caution in me. I just don't think about it most of the time. (End first tangent.)
(Begin second tangent.) It's sad that a woman can't run by herself without worrying about being attacked. Several of the comments on the SJR website say that women shouldn't go out by themselves. (They also refer to the attack on the woman in Washington Park and say that it isn't just the bike trails, but everywhere.) That limits our independence. I enjoy working out by myself. I enjoy setting my own pace and challenging myself. I also enjoy the alone-time running gives me. That's time I don't want to share with someone else. Quite honestly I more than likely won't give up my alone-time (especially since there's no way I'll get Mr. Shoo up to run with me in the mornings), but I will be more cautious.
I don't know that giving up our independence and always insisting on having someone with us is the answer. I do believe that we (read: I) need to be more cautious. I know I will be carrying my cell phone with me from now on. I will also be more aware of my surroundings. Usually I am so focused on my pace and such that I don't always notice what's around me. I'll have to multi-task from now on. I think if we simply refuse to go out by ourselves, we are all becoming victims, and I won't do that. (My daddy will be very bothered by this.)
What do you think? Should we give up our independence because someone is victimizing others? Is this being safe and smart? Or is this being afraid to live because of a few isolated incidents? (End second tangent.)
What I was really impressed by while reading this article was the woman's clear head while being attacked. I know humans are programmed to protect themselves in any way possible, but her cool head was so inspiring to me. I'm sure this is what saved her.
Anyway, I just wanted to share this because I know I'm not the only Humzoo-er who uses the Springpatch bike trails, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who enjoys walking, biking and running alone. So, be cautious!!

(Finally, check out the comments on the article regarding concealed carry. I love how people can turn anything into a political discussion. I have to wonder though if she did carry a .22 while running if it would end up shooting her on accident rather than an attacker during an attempted rape.)
33 Comments
George
1) Good post which I first thought was going to be a commentary on the chiraptorhuas. Of course its wise to be cautious and I would think carrying a cell phone would make sense. I always carry mine. I think people should just be careful, go places to places that are not too secluded and at times when there will probably be other people around.

As far as carrying a gun, I'm not even going to debate that one. A gun is only any good if you're prepared to use it, otherwise it is a potential weapon against yourself. If such a law was passed, I would recommend getting training and be prepared to shoot to kill as you can never be sure that you'll be able to only wound someone.
LimeyGeorge   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
nikideaton
2) I would recommend carrying pepper spray over a handgun.
niki   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
3) I agree 100% with both of you. I just had to point out the ridiculous comments on the story. I suppose that's just par for the course with the SJR.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
spike
4) when I run...I'm attached to a 100lb black dog...that seems to keep people away
Spike   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
George
5) That's probably about the best possible deterrent. Just take your pooches.
LimeyGeorge   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
spike
6) yes...and when people ask me if he bites I just say "sometimes" and smile
Spike   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
courtneyheinzel
7) I go out by myself frequently. But I stay in my neighborhood, and I know several people spread all over the neighborhood. I also carry my phone with me all the time, and I have been meaning to look for pepper spray. It's not as prevalent in stores as it was when I was in college.

Unfortunately I'm hyper-aware of everything around me all the time. I try to notice everything, and I distrust everyone. It's tiring.

Women should not have to go out in a group. We should be afforded the same safety as men. It's disgusting that anyone should think otherwise. Let's go ahead and blame the victim, why don't we?

I have seen some unsavory characters on Wabash trail before when Dave and I take the kids for a bike ride. Always around the apartments.
Courtney Heinzel   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
8) Spike, oftentimes I bring Clancy with me. I would take both, but Buddy can't keep up very well. Maybe I can borrow the raptordogs. I'm sure they'd be a huge deterrent.
Courtney, I couldn't possibly agree with you more. After the Washington Park attack, I thought about getting pepper spray, and now I'm considering it again just to be safe. I'll definitely be bringing my cell phone with me from now on.
I also have noticed sketchy people on the Wabash Trail by the apartments. I also notice the alcohol containers littering the sides of the trail...alcohol and creepy people are a bad mixture.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
sandy
9) I'm not in the Springfield area, but anytime I go out jogging, it's by myself. I never take my cell phone with me. When I'm out walking with the kids, I always carry it with me, but I'm just on city streets. When I run, sometimes I cut thru the woods of the state park by myself; probably easier for someone to make a sneak attack there than on a public street, but maybe not. Things happen everywhere.

The main reason I don't bring my phone when I run is that I can't figure out a way to carry it comfortably. I don't carry a pack or anything when I run, and my phone thumps and bumps in my pocket if I put it there. My hands get too sweaty to hold onto it. Any suggestions on how to carry it? An ipod-like sleeve maybe? But then I'd have two of those on...
sandy   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
soundchick
10) I read the article this morning and I was also very impressed with the victim. I hope she doesn't have too much trouble or lasting emotional scars from this incident. Sounds like this scumbag got more than he bargained for and maybe he'll think twice the next time he tries something like this. Unfortunately, it's unlikely he'll get caught. I hate to say it, but maybe it's not a bad idea to install some cameras on the trails. People can be sitting ducks for crimes like that: robbery, rape, etc. The older I get, the more afraid I am of the outside world. When I was younger, I lived in a bad neighborhood. When I was a little older, I would walk to and from school. There were multiple occasions when men tried to get into their car. Yes, multiple occasions. Lucky for me, I was very aware of my surroundings and ran like hell in order to get away. I was too young and stupid to realize I should have reported these incidents to the police, but looking back, I really wish I had.
I did not see the readers comments on on the SJ-R article but to the ones Mrs. Shoo mentioned: How dare you tell me that I shouldn't be out doing something perfectly legal in the middle of the day! That's the same mentality of telling a woman who was raped that she was asking for it because she dresses provacatively. I would love to hear if any Humzooer out there believes in that garbage. We'll go rounds...
soundchick   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
igna83
11) I'm agreeing with everything except concealed weapons, but I'm sure my husband will agree with that for me. Also, if I were to go running--HA!--I also have two large black dogs, but would only need the one: our German Shepherd. That generally keeps the creeps away.
Angi   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
12) Ok since I need to reacquaint myself with Spfld--- please tell me where this Wabash Trail is.
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
13) It runs parallel to Wabash. It begins right by our house and ends near Veterans.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
ben
14) The concealed weapon thing kind of cracks me up. I think running with an ipod can be uncomfortable....can you imagine a gun? As for the Wabash trail...very surprising...I always find that trail very safe cause there are always so many people on it. But I guess it depends on the time of day.
Biker Ben   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
_DELETED_hayley
15) Off the top of my head, this is my thought on the subject.

Men have balls for a reason, and when i say "balls", i don't mean "dude, did you see that jump, man's got some balls!" - i mean dangling testes. Hot, right?

Not to offend anyone, but there must be some reason that men have some internal organs hanging on the outside (aside from sperm requiring a temp. 2 degrees cooler than the body to live).

My thought? Balls are hanging there as the female defense mechanism. If it hurts as bad as they say they do, all we need to do when attacked is figure out some way to head butt, knee, punch, kick, elbow, etc. the area to take down the offender.

In short, balls are the female's natural weapon of defense against overly aggressive males.
Hayley   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
16) Ben, I have to agree. I am, however, going to have to find the most comfortable way of running with my cell phone from now on. As for the Wabash Trail, in the early mornings, it's not as busy. Also, there are some sketchy people hanging around.

Hayley, that analysis of men's anatomy makes sense to me...
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
_DELETED_hayley
17) Mrs. Shoo, When I played lacrosse I kept my inhaler in my cleavage (sports bras almost guarantees it won't budge). At bars, that's where my phone used to go as well when I was sans purse. :)
Hayley   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
_DELETED_hayley
18) ...i didn't mean to be so anatomy-focused.
Hayley   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
lindagsings
19) There has been a lot of conversation about crime in the area, especially Sherwood. Some just little crime, but still crime. I just recently joined a yahoo group for sherwoodsubdivision, Mrs. Shoo, if you live in Sherwood, you are eligible to join and can receive helpful info as well.

I would never imagined that kind of crime or any crime taking place so early in the morning either... very shocking.
SA Tenor   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
lgrant
20) I keep hearing people talk about iPods when running or walking. That's always bothered me because I worry that your hearing is impaired (no, I'm not talking the volume and your inevitable deafness that has been discussed!) to someone moving around you. Particularly in areas that have hiding places or trees that could block your view. The other suggestion would be to alter your route and your times. One of the first things police will ask at a crime scene like robbery or burglary is "do you leave at the same time every day?". If you tend to run at the same time and the same way every day, I would think that would make you more susceptible to crime because someone can schedule and plan the attack.

I never worried with Lucky, my Shepherd-mix, or my Shepherd I ran/walked with years ago. As someone mentioned, no one argues with a dog who looks like that. I was always asked "what would she do?". My reply was always, "No one ever tests her". Pepper spray is a good deterrent but you risk that being used against you as well as a gun. Unfortunately and frustratingly, our society doesn't allow for us to be safe without being with someone else or a dog or armed (either by training or weapon of some type). It is a shame. A bigger shame that kids have that problem too and the innocence mentioned in a separate blog is gone and kids can't be kids any more and enjoy a bike ride alone or being safe in a store alone or walking home from a neighbor's house too late at night. Or as someone mentioned--even in daytime from stalkers who try to get them to get in the car. Maybe the cameras would help--if these people know they are being recorded...maybe not.
LGrant   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
21) Hayley, I'll have to try between the girls tomorrow. I used to keep my iPod there when I worked out at the gym. But like LGrant mentioned, I don't run outside with my iPod...just one more thing to distract me.
SA, we live in Jerome, right where both trails meet. A friend's family was just complaining about Lincolnshire. There's been an increase in crime there; granted, nothing to the extent of the bike trail (just minor break-ins and thefts), but still...
LGrant, it's really disappointing that it takes such drastic measures as pepper spray and concealed carry laws (although I'm not convinced that putting more guns out there is the answer). This just reinforces my desire to not have children. What would I be bringing them into?
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
lgrant
22) I totally agree, Mrs. Shoo. But then again I don't want to be raped or beaten either. I used to carry pepper spray for years on a key-ring but decided after having to remember to remove it before going to the airport and more info about the difficulty of using it and not ending up being the victim, to discontinue the practice. I try to walk with a lot of confidence, an obvious awareness of my environment--both said to be good deterrents. Nothing affecting my hearing or movements. Other than that, walk in safer areas with more people if not lots of people to minimize crime.
LGrant   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
23) Ok know where the trail is so tell me where is Lincolnshire located?
Mrs. Shoo, a cat keyring is a great self-defense tool--- effective on eyes, throat, stomache & male testes.
granted they are considered a weapon so cannot take onto airplanes. I carry one and got my college bound daughter one.
http://www.selfdefence.com/Keychains/wildkat.php
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
lgrant
24) MEOW...those look harmless enough but look pretty lethal. Thanks for the tip, Catherine.
LGrant   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
25) The one I have got at Penny Lane years ago but they no longer carry them. Bummer. Great for opening soda cans too. LOL
Catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
lindagsings
26) I know this was kind of lame, but last xmas we put in each of our girls stockings, the mini pepper spray cans (from MC Sports) They were both like .. ugh, this is not a stocking stuffer!! Ric was like, too bad, you need to have them. Merry xmas and open another gift.

Catherine: I have to admit, if it weren't for the hand/keychain photos, I might not have realized the use of them.

MEOW, INDEED!
SA Tenor   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
27) I have never had to use it but have always felt safer with it specially when taking night classes. Most folks just think it is a cute kitty keychain. Safer than mace/pepper spray cause don't have to worry about accidently going off or having wind blow back into your face instead of perps.
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
28) I couldn't agree more, LGrant. It's just sad.
Aunt Cathy, Lincolnshire is right off Chatham Road, behind where Chris used to live in the townhouse. Also, my aunt used to have one of those cat keychains when she lived in St. Louis. I just thought it was because she liked cats...I didn't know it was a self-defense tool until I just went to the website.
SA, I think that's a good gift...practical. Never hurts to get a few of those...like getting socks or underwear.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
29) Lincolnshire the subdivision just south (if you will) of Westchester on way to knights action park?
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
30) Yes. Did Big D Shoo tell you about Meg's parents' house?
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
31) nope
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
mrsshoo
32) Dan was walking the dogs and caught some man in his garage. He stopped the man until the cops came. It was a big ordeal. I don't know the entire story, but that's the gist.
Sarah S.   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
33) Geez Maybe I should stay out here in KC Sounds like Spfld is just as dangerous if not more so than the metro.
catherine   Tuesday, June 24, 2008
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